The CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) took the first official stance on prioritizing who will get the first doses of any COVID-19 vaccine. For almost four hours the committee discussed in detail who within the priority groups would get access early on when doses are limited. For example, the committee wanted to ensure that people who work directly in providing patient care will be first in line. They also wanted those in nursing facilities to have early access.

In the end, the committee voted 13 to 1 to prioritize health care providers first and then elderly residents of long-term care facilities to receive COVID-19 vaccines. This was not a surprise, and while the vote is not binding, most believe Dr. Robert Redfield, head of the CDC, will accept the recommendation.
The CDC believes there are about 21 million healthcare workers, which includes everyone from hospital workers to emergency medical technicians and home health care personnel. They also believe there are about 3 million older Americans living in skilled nursing or long-term care facilities.
While it is not assured, both the Pfizer vaccine (to be reviewed by the FDA on December 10th) and the Moderna vaccine (to be reviewed by the FDA on December 17th) are expected to be approved on the basis of remarkable data (95% effectiveness in preventing illness) from their phase 3 clinical trials. If both vaccines are approved, the first 40 million or so doses could be available by the end of the year.
Of interest, Dr. Helen Talbot, associate professor of medicine at Vanderbilt University, was the sole member to vote against the vaccine recommendation. She reported concerns about the lack of safety data on vaccinating elderly residents of long-term care facilities. “I’ve spent my career studying vaccines in older adults, and traditionally we’ve tried vaccines in young, healthy populations then hoped it worked in frail, older adults,” she said during the meeting.
On another continent, the European Medicines Agency EMA (European Union FDA) said its officials will “work through Christmas” to review data from Pfizer and Moderna applications to evaluate the vaccines’ safety and effectiveness. The EMA is set to make a judgment on the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine first, by Dec. 29 at the latest, two weeks before Moderna’s vaccine, which will be reviewed by Jan. 12. This means the two vaccines are likely to be available in the U.S. a few weeks before they are available in Europe.
I have already formally expressed my personal willingness to take either of these two vaccines. I may be only one “elderly” physician, but I have no reluctance about the safety of either vaccine. Compared to traditional vaccines that contain a mix of virus and cell proteins, along with many other components, these two vaccines are pure RNA that makes only the viral spike protein in your own body. RNA breaks down rapidly, so it should not be present long term inside of you. This is as good as a vaccine gets.
Do you share the lone dissenter’s concern about the vaccine for the very frail aged persons?
Also- if someone has had COVID, would they be eligible for the vaccine or is the assumption that they have anti-bodies already (backed by testing) leaving more doses available for others?
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Dr. Baker, I’m interested to know your thoughts on where those of us who have survived Covid-19, and almost certainly have robust, neutralizing, antibody titers (i.e., equivalent to a vaccine response) stand. Should we be considered ‘vaccinated’ and moved to the back of the line? Also, is there any risk for Covid-19 survivors to be vaccinated (e.g., a hypersensitivity response)? Thanks
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Unclear at present. I think it needs to be studies.
Thanks!
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Will you comment on your opinion on healthcare personnel getting the vaccine if they have had C19, or have had C19 and still have lingering symptoms. A simple yet obvious symptom is the lingering diminution in taste or smell.
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I am curious as to your opinion on potential safety or efficacy concerns with these vaccines in elderly with CLL? I have read that CLL patients who survive Covid-19 demonstrate an immune response and successfully develop antibodies but I don’t know if CLL would impact the ability to respond to the mRNA? I would assume in the 3M nursing home patient population there will be a sub-population of patients with CLL? Thanks- I enjoy reading your blog. Go Blue!
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They would be safe for persons with CLL. The effectiveness would depend on the individuals disease and residual immunity. But I would have no reluctance giving this to someone with CLL.
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Thank you!
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